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427: You’re Too Scared of Being Useless to Play with Cas Holman

By November 10, 2025No Comments

When was the last time you did something just because it was fun?

Not because it would advance your career. Not because it would make you a better parent or partner. Not because it would optimize your health or expand your network. Just because it brought you joy.

If you’re sitting there drawing a blank, you’re not alone. Most of us have turned our entire lives into one giant to-do list. We’ve optimized the fun right out of existence.

I realized this recently when I noticed that every single thing on my calendar served a purpose. Work meetings. Kid activities. Workouts. Networking events. Even my “fun” plans were really just relationship maintenance or personal development in disguise. There was literally nothing on there that was pure play. Nothing that existed just because it lit me up inside.

We’ve been sold this idea that adulthood means being serious. Responsible. Productive. But somewhere along the way, we confused being an adult with being joyless. In Vedic philosophy, there’s this concept of lila. Divine play. The idea that creation itself is an act of joyful expression, not serious business. That the universe is literally playing itself into existence. And yet here we are, treating our one precious life like a performance review.

In this conversation, you’ll discover:

  • Why your achievement addiction is actually a fear response in disguise
  • How play unlocks the creative parts of yourself productivity destroys
  • The real reason you can’t rest (and how to finally stop running)

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